tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338174527262061848.post3562046919081709149..comments2023-09-29T08:51:56.163-07:00Comments on Coyle's InFormation: Astonishing announcement: RDA goes 2.0Karen Coylehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02519757456533839003noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338174527262061848.post-62357297695276198332007-05-10T05:15:00.000-07:002007-05-10T05:15:00.000-07:00This is certainly welcome news. I was a bit anxiou...This is certainly welcome news. I was a bit anxious about RDA, as the early drafts didn't seem to have anything more than semantical changes. I'll be watching this development closely. Thanks for posting it!Brigid N. Burkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16954486097108820795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338174527262061848.post-17853915367579299502007-05-09T07:33:00.000-07:002007-05-09T07:33:00.000-07:00Neil,I think this is significant as an example of ...Neil,<BR/>I think this is significant as an example of how to make our various metadata efforts more compatible. If we can reconcile DC and RDA, we should be able to also begin to bring into the fold other metadata standards. The DC-RDA work will be a good test of this concept. In particular, I think that the concept of a registry of data elements is key, and will allow us to re-use data elements across a wide range of metadata schemes.Karen Coylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02519757456533839003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338174527262061848.post-39946972738451399732007-05-08T20:09:00.000-07:002007-05-08T20:09:00.000-07:00What might this mean for those seeking to establis...What might this mean for those seeking to establish metadata standards (including element names, thesauri for resource types . . .) for repositories in Australia?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338174527262061848.post-5168268254206511412007-05-06T17:01:00.000-07:002007-05-06T17:01:00.000-07:00Steve, Believe me, these aren't easy concepts, so ...Steve, <BR/><BR/>Believe me, these aren't easy concepts, so I think Diane and I need to work on a follow-up document that spells out the impact of this news (assuming we can put it into words ourselves). Essentially, it doesn't directly affect MODS or MARC or MARCXML as long as we keep doing those in the same way we always have. But if we move forward toward MARC2.0 and MODS2.0, then we are much more likely to be working in an environment where 1) there is greater compatibility between metadata schemes 2) there is more re-use of the data elements that libraries define (say for personal bibliographic software, or citation linking). It essentially makes it more possible for us to play in the greater Web sandbox. The flip side is that it holds out some promise to end the isolation of library data from the "bright web." But we'll have to make some changes for that to happen.Karen Coylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02519757456533839003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338174527262061848.post-7345876858855988072007-05-06T10:27:00.000-07:002007-05-06T10:27:00.000-07:00I'm pretty ignorant about RDA and MARC and am stil...I'm pretty ignorant about RDA and MARC and am still having a hard time seeing the big picture here. <BR/><BR/>Can you connect the dots for me: how will the ability to express RDA elements in a machine-readable way affect and interrelate with data structure standards like, say MODS or MARCXML?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338174527262061848.post-48360790226809272912007-05-04T10:28:00.000-07:002007-05-04T10:28:00.000-07:00Alison, Since this is something that has just happ...Alison, <BR/>Since this is something that has just happened, there are a lot of unknowns. However, here are a few "knowns":<BR/>1. this is a change to the creation of the standard; it means that there will be a machine-manipulable version of RDA. It does not directly affect the creation of catalog records, although eventually those could also change.<BR/>2. it will take a while for this change to happen, and even longer for it to have a ripple effect on library systems. My guess is that it will be years (but hopefully not decades) before the library system itself is using data in a different format.<BR/>3. The end user, and the cataloger, may never see any major change in how the records look on the screen. This is "deep background" stuff. However, in the best of worlds, the end user and the cataloger views will improve because library data will be more flexible.Karen Coylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02519757456533839003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338174527262061848.post-19059904807488951382007-05-04T10:06:00.000-07:002007-05-04T10:06:00.000-07:00For those of us who currently do "normal" MARC cat...For those of us who currently do "normal" MARC cataloguing for traditional OPACs: what does this mean? Does it just impact electronic resources (e.g. ability to embed standard metadata that libraries can easily use) or does it impact exchange of bibliographic information for print, A/V etc. materials also? I'm not a techie... :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338174527262061848.post-38018217111097838272007-05-04T06:59:00.000-07:002007-05-04T06:59:00.000-07:00Karen: really good to see this, though as I mentio...Karen: really good to see this, though as I <A HREF="http://www.frbr.org/2007/05/04/rda-dc-frbr-frad-rdf#comment-110789" REL="nofollow">mentioned</A> on another blog, it would be a really good idea to get Ian Davis (from Talis) involved in this work. He has the kind of pragmatic RDF (and FRBR-in-RDF) background that can be really helpful in this sort of work.Brucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14395303309033247299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338174527262061848.post-60060403943351110622007-05-03T17:36:00.000-07:002007-05-03T17:36:00.000-07:00Irvin, yes, thanks, you are right, I effected the ...Irvin, yes, thanks, you are right, I effected the changed to affected :-). I think this is a grand step forward and it should make library metadata much more visible on the web and also provide a boost for DC.Karen Coylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02519757456533839003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338174527262061848.post-6905245083780602912007-05-03T16:53:00.000-07:002007-05-03T16:53:00.000-07:00I think this is good (and big!) news for both DC a...I think this is good (and big!) news for both DC and RDA, and will get librarians actively involved in DC again. I can see the DC eprints application profile work has paved the way for this extra step.<BR/><BR/>One q: 'The "instructions" as we see them in the RDA documentation, will not be effected.' Shouldn't that be 'affected'? If not, the cataloguing community will be _really_ up in arms!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338174527262061848.post-74275100587363739492007-05-03T12:16:00.000-07:002007-05-03T12:16:00.000-07:00If you see a JSC member, hug them.If you see a JSC member, hug them.Simon Sperohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15956746824178743667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3338174527262061848.post-84823338087269064342007-05-03T10:45:00.000-07:002007-05-03T10:45:00.000-07:00Well, either Hell froze over or there is a God. O...Well, either Hell froze over or there is a God. Or both.<BR/><BR/>This is good news, especially the hook into the SemanticWeb and RDF.Mark J. Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13762493260641344559noreply@blogger.com